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Diamond, Pearl and Platinum Platinum: The Elite Four | All erm, 5 of them

You've just defeated the Elite Four for the 427th time on Diamond and Pearl. They sit around, dumbfounded. How could this have happened? "I know" announced Cynthia, who is still considered The Champion no matter how many times you thrash her. "Let's change our teams for Platinum". The rest is history.

As is now standard the bunch have different teams before and after you unlock the National Dex. Hence the first team is the one you'll initially battle. They might have changed some of their weaker Pokémon to some more powerful ones, but generally the Elite Four now use slightly lower levels.

Before the National Dex

Aaron

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Yanmega

Level 49

Scizor

Level 49

Vespiquen

Level 50

Heracross

Level 51

Drapion

Level 53
Aaron is actually weaker than he was previously. Dustox and Beautifly have gone, Yanmega and Scizor have come in. His Pokémon have generally lost 3-4 levels.

Bertha

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Whiscash

Level 50

Hippowdon

Level 52

Golem

Level 52

Gliscor

Level 53

Rhyperior

Level 55
Bertha has lost Sudowoodo and Quagsire and gained Rhyperior and Gliscor. Ouch. Ouch. Again her Pokémon have generally lost levels however - her Golem is a whole 7 levels weaker than it was in DP.

Flint

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Houndoom

Level 52

Rapidash

Level 53

Flareon

Level 55

Infernape

Level 55

Magmortar

Level 57
Away go Steelix, Lopunny and Drifblim (surprisingly, given Flint is supposed to have Fire type Pokémon) and in come Houndoom, Flareon and Magmortar. Again he's lost some levels though. For example, his Rapidash is 5 levels junior to his DP counterpart.

Lucian

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Mr. Mime

Level 53

Bronzong

Level 54

Espeon

Level 55

Alakazam

Level 56

Gallade

Level 59
Out go Girafarig and Medicham. In come Espeon and Gallade.

Cynthia

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Spiritomb

Level 58

Roserade

Level 58

Milotic

Level 58

Togekiss

Level 60

Lucario

Level 60

Garchomp

Level 62
Just one change for Cynthia, with Gastrodon replaced with Togepi Airways itself, Togekiss. Lucario has lost 6 levels since DP, Garchomp 4 levels.

After the National Dex

Aaron

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Yanmega

Level 65

Scizor

Level 65

Vespiquen

Level 66

Heracross

Level 67

Drapion

Level 69

Bertha

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Whiscash

Level 66

Hippowdon

Level 68

Golem

Level 68

Gliscor

Level 69

Rhyperior

Level 71

Flint

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Houndoom

Level 68

Rapidash

Level 69

Flareon

Level 71

Infernape

Level 71

Magmortar

Level 73

Lucian

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Mr. Mime

Level 69

Bronzong

Level 70

Espeon

Level 71

Alakazam

Level 72

Gallade

Level 75

Cynthia

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Spiritomb

Level 74

Roserade

Level 74

Milotic

Level 74

Togekiss

Level 76

Lucario

Level 76

Garchomp

Level 78

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COMMENTS
PokeSurfer on Mon 30 Mar 2009 21:04:35 UTC.
Wow! The E4 get tough after the Nationa Dex!
on Tue 31 Mar 2009 14:22:02 UTC.
Yea :0 I have platinum and thnx to that im VERY scared now
Freestyler on Tue 31 Mar 2009 15:11:58 UTC.
golem was previously on lv 56, not 59.
spy777 on Wed 01 Apr 2009 16:39:19 UTC.
can platinum get any better?!?!!??!?!
sishkabab on Thu 02 Apr 2009 12:36:58 UTC.
2nd cynthia looks HARD its good that they gey better though
Moon Chaser on Fri 03 Apr 2009 17:46:07 UTC.
now i know what 2 expect
Haruka on Fri 03 Apr 2009 18:53:04 UTC.
I love how Cinthias room changed!!!! Eeppppppp!
Shadow-Lugia on Thu 09 Apr 2009 19:29:24 UTC.
it has a dark edge to it
Deoxys_rules on Sun 12 Apr 2009 22:39:21 UTC.
Lucian is evil because he's so fricken hard, and that was in D/P! How dare he insult the Espeons and Gallades of the world by adding them to his team!
Deoxys_rules on Sun 12 Apr 2009 22:45:11 UTC.
I might have trouble with post-National Dex Cynthia. About all that could stand up to her from my D/P (not that I plan to import those) team is my Level 90-something Shaymin and my Level 80 Garchomp. Or I could take my Level 70-something Gallade and almost Level-80 Lucario and try to do it the old-fashioned way... type-advantage her!
THE ARBITER on Wed 22 Apr 2009 00:46:20 UTC.
those guys are easy for me to beat it on the the first try
caden3344 on Thu 21 May 2009 22:29:43 UTC.
it is so hard when you have only fie types!!! and i got the natinul dex b efore i beat them!!!!!
r.e.d. on Mon 29 Jun 2009 18:15:39 UTC.
what are you talking about?
Gallade rulez on Mon 24 Aug 2009 03:24:57 UTC.
They're always easy... Beat it 20 times and your Rival will IMPROVE by 20 levels! Say, Lv.62 Staraptor into Lv.82!!!
LanceWest1 on Wed 02 Sep 2009 15:45:03 UTC.
To beat cynthia post national team all u need id stragey. Garchomp, is super powerful and all but hit it with a ice attak say from a floatzellike ice beam and it will take most of it hp away.
Sweet Silver Nightmare on Mon 14 Sep 2009 16:36:52 UTC.
Actually, an Ice Beam or Hail and Blizzard combo from an Ice Type (Or just Blizzard from a Pokemon with the Snow Warning ability) could spell defeat for PN-Cynthia as well.
Sweet Silver Nightmare on Mon 14 Sep 2009 16:37:17 UTC.
Her Garchomp, I mean.
on Tue 29 Dec 2009 22:26:18 UTC.
Garchomp is evil.
A level 73 Empoleon can beat it and he has an ice attack.